Exclusive Interview with Dillon Casey (Sean Pierce on NIKITA)
Mike Vicic - January 6, 2012
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Dillon Casey, who plays Oversight's Sean Pierce on The CW's NIKITA, recently took some time from his busy schedule to answer 20 questions in this exclusive interview with TV Tango. Dillon dished about being (nearly) naked, taking an elbow in the jaw from a woman, and the Alex-Sean relationship. Plus, he discussed a deleted scene with Sean's mother and his preparation for fight scenes.
NIKITA returns with all-new episodes on Friday, January 6, 2012 at 8pm ET/PT on The CW.
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TV Tango: In an interview in mid-November 2011, you said you got goosebumps when you first read episode 12 [airing January 13, 2012] but you didn't reveal much. Now that two more episodes have aired since you first read that script, is there anything you can share now? Dillon Casey: Episode 12 is a really intense episode where things take a big change. Everybody's going to be changing where they stand. Sean is going to really have to question his loyalties. He's going to finally hear Nikita's side of the story. He's also going to be half-naked for most of the episode. It's sort of up in the air who is going to survive and move on to episode 13 and the second half of the season. It's a game changer. |
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TV Tango: In a tweet you said you were covered in baby oil, what can viewer's expect? Dillon Casey: It's not like Sean is covered in baby oil. It's one of those camera tricks that make a person look like they've just come out of the water. And rather than dump water on them after every take, they put oil on them to make them look shiny, like you just came out of the pool or something.
I was basically covered in baby oil for four days straight -- baby oil and sand. It was crazy. |
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TV Tango: In early December 2011 you tweeted "My old training as a strippergram delivery boy is about to come in handy." Was that tweet related to Sean in NIKITA or you in real-life? Dillon Casey: Well, Maggie started to pimp me out this episode and started to tell interviewers that I had a great body and all this other stuff. She said "You owe me one." So to thank her, I said "My old training as a strippergram would come in handy," which just meant that I was joking about giving her a present and maybe showing up at her place and stripping for her. |
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TV Tango: Can we expect to see more Q-like moments for Sean, like when you implanted the tracking device in Alex's watch? Dillon Casey: Definitely. Sean's on his own, and he needs to solve these problems on his own. And he's a very resourceful guy. He does what he has to do. |
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TV Tango: Besides trying to protect his mother, did Sean have other reasons for destroying the black box in "Fair Trade"? Dillon Casey: As far as I could tell, he just wanted to take it out of the equation. He didn't want either side to have that power. That's another example of where Sean is on his own. I don't think he liked the concept of the black box being out there and anybody holding onto it, having that power. |
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TV Tango: Did Sean know something about the contents of the black box that his mother didn't know? Dillon Casey: As far as I know, he didn't want Oversight or Nikita or Division to have that power. I think he just knew what he'd been told about it, and the fact that everybody wants it so bad is a pretty good sign that there's stuff on there that nobody needs to have. |
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TV Tango: Did Sean kill Gaines only to protect his mother or did he have other reasons, acting on his own? Dillon Casey: That was to protect his mother. Fully to protect his mother. He does it by instinct, by gut reaction. I don't think that he meant to do it. I think he's really surprised at himself that he did it. |
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TV Tango: Did Sean get close to Alex from the beginning because he identified her as an integral part of a backup plan, as he said in "London Calling"? Or did Sean originally get close to just prevent Alex from doing something stupid? Dillon Casey: I think he got close to her because she's hot. That's 90% of it.
My feeling is that he knows that she's a way to get to Nikita, but I also think that he could've found other ways. He's a resourceful guy. There are a lot of angles he could've looked at. |
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I think it was one of those "killing two birds with one stone." I think whether he knows it or not, he has strong feelings for Alex -- that are starting to develop if not already developed -- and I think he's using this whole thing as an excuse to get closer to her.
TV Tango: Will this make shippers happy? Dillon Casey: Sure, as long as they ship Alex and Sean. |
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TV Tango: Does Sean know anything about his father? Dillon Casey: Well, I haven't read anything. The writers haven't told me anything about his father. It seems to me that Sean really admires his father, but I don't know if he's alive or dead or estranged. I think his father was a man of honor. That seems, to me at least, where he got a lot of his principles from.
I have the idea that maybe Percy is his father, but I'm not sure. It might even be that Sean was immaculately conceived. [laughs] |
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TV Tango: What was Sean's role at Camp Pendleton before he took -- or was forced to take -- this job? Dillon Casey: He wasn't forced to take it. In the audition scene, there's a scene that didn't make it to the episode even though it's a great one. His mother, Madeline, is telling him that she created Division and now Division has gone out of her control, and she needs someone to go in there and clean it up, to keep tabs on them, and monitor Amanda's work. Sean doesn't want to do it all, but his mother basically begs him. He wasn't forced to do it, but he has very strong loyalty to his family and his mother exploits that.
They didn't keep the scene because they didn't want people to know so early that she was Sean's mother. It was right for episode 2 or something, but they couldn't fit it in just because of time constraints. It was a great scene. |
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TV Tango: What do you think about Nikita referring to Sean as "Boy Scout"? Dillon Casey: It makes sense. It's a good nickname. He's always prepared. He's not like Han Solo -- he's not a cocky, bad-ass. He's just so prepared. That's his way. They fear Sean and respect him. |
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TV Tango: How difficult are the action sequences that you do? Dillon Casey: I've done one fight scene so far, and it's not that it's difficult but you put a lot of pressure on yourself to make the stunt choreographers happy and make them look good -- they're the guys who plan all these things out. It's just that you have to pay attention to the details and get it right.
The difficult stuff has been something like when I was up in Lake Ontario at the end of November in a wetsuit, swimming onto the beach. I've never worn SCUBA gear in my life. I had to come onto the beach and take it off like a Navy SEAL and plot a location to be a sniper, and I had never done that before in my life. You just kind of have to turn your brain off, and trust that after they tell you how to do it that you're actually going to be able to do it. You know every take costs thousands of dollars; so you just have to get that pressure off yourself and give yourself time to do it. |
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TV Tango: When you work with stunt coordinators, do you get any special training in mixed martial arts or do they just work on the choreography for that specific scene? Dillon Casey: They break it down into small parts and then any martial arts training that you might've had, you let them know, and they can make some of the scenes a little more difficult or advanced, depending on how they think you are doing. I've trained a lot in a style called White Tiger Kung Fu or Bak Fu Pai Kung Fu. I've trained a lot on that in Los Angeles. If my teacher heard this, he'd be laughing in my face, but I know some footwork. I know some stances. I can pick up what I'm being taught faster than if I had no training whatsoever.
But if you really can't get a move, they have someone standing by who can come in there and do it for you so they can at least get an angle that looks like you doing it. They're so good at breaking it down and teaching you how to do it that it just becomes a lot of repetition and instinct once you get out there. |
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TV Tango: How did your workout regimen change once you found out you'd be doing NIKITA? Dillon Casey: Not much. I used to do a lot of weights like a bodybuilder, and a while ago I noticed that my range of motion was going down. I was heavier, but I didn't feel like I was in great shape.
Then I started doing the 300 workout, which is a lot of circuit training -- chin-ups and push-ups, that sort of stuff. If anything, I guess I just intensified that, especially knowing that I have to be a guy who's always in peak physical form. I've just made sure that I feel that way.
Maggie noticed that I was really inflexible; so to make her happy, I've been stretching more. |
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TV Tango: What was it like filming a fight sequence on the beach -- especially at night? Dillon Casey: It was great. I was never worried about hurting the other person -- I can't tell you who it was, but it's a woman. The only thing I was ever worried about was getting sand in her eyes.
At one point I took an elbow to the face, which was surprising. I took an elbow right to the jaw, actually. No missing teeth. |
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TV Tango: Do you get any special training in weaponry? Dillon Casey: Not as much as I would've liked before we started. Again, it was one of those things where there wasn't much time. I got the part, and within two days I was on set. The day after that we were shooting guns.
There's a guy on set who's a professional gun wrangler, I guess. We call him "Pete Guns." He just comes up to me 30 seconds before we're about to take action, and he shows me how to use the gun. I just have to do it. If I get something wrong, he'll come and tell me, or if I need a detail to work out, I'll chase him down and ask him some questions between takes. That's all the special training I've gotten. |
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I'm hoping to get out to a gun range soon though so I can clean it up a little. It's crazy. Like the other day, I picked up a sniper rifle bigger than my leg and had to look like I've been doing it my whole life. That's one thing I didn't realize -- you have to look like you know how to do this stuff. |
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TV Tango: Do you play hockey? [Note: Dillon played Trevor Lemonde in the series, MVP, as shown in the picture on the left.] Dillon Casey: No. [laughing] I played a little bit when I was younger, but I was like Happy Gilmore -- I never learned how to stop.
I like hockey. I actually also played when I was in university at McGill. We played intramurals. I scored a goal in the championship with a broken stick. [Ed. note: Sorry, no footage.] That was probably the highlight of my hockey career. |
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TV Tango: Besides NIKITA, what's on your DVR? Dillon Casey: I love THE LEAGUE, ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA. I love THE WALKING DEAD, MAD MEN, CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM. Those are my top five.
I hope it's good, but I can't wait to see the new season of ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT. I hope they don't ruin it, but I don't think that they will. |
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TV Tango: If you could appear on a competition reality series, which one would you choose and why? Dillon Casey: I think I'd like to try SURVIVOR. I think I'm a pretty smart guy, and I'd like to see if that's true. I want to see how evil and conniving I can get. Not that I am, but on a show like that, you have to throw your morals out the window. |
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