Q&A Interview with SONS OF ANARCHY Cast & Producers, with Video Recaps & Behind-the-Scenes Vids
Maj Canton - September 6, 2011
When SONS OF ANARCHY returns for its intense and riveting fourth season, Jax -- who is fresh out of a jail adjusting to the birth of his newborn son -- is forced to put new plans into motion that could affect the club and ultimately his family. To get ready for the 90-minute season premiere on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 10pm on FX, check out this Q&A interview with the cast and producers, video recaps of the first three seasons, a video preview of the fourth season, and multiple behind-the-scenes videos.
The Q&A interview is from the Television Critic's Association Summer 2011 Press Tour, where TV Tango attended the SONS OF ANARCHY panel with creator and executive producer Kurt Sutter, executive producer and principal director Paris Barclay, and most of the cast including Ron Perlman, Katey Sagal, Maggie Siff, Kim Coates, Mark Boone Junior, Tommy Flanagan, Ryan Hurst, Theo Rossi, William Lucking and Dayton Callie.
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QUESTION: Mr. Barclay, what brought you aboard? And, Mr. Sutter, why Mr. Barclay? PARIS BARCLAY: You only get maybe two or three chances to find a show where the passion is as good, as the writing is as good, as the cast, and I've had a couple. NYPD BLUE was one. And SONS OF ANARCHY, which I did a couple of episodes of before, had that nexus. What Kurt's created, what the cast is able to do, it's lightning in a bottle. So Kurt cajoles me. Last time last season, I almost did it. I was doing IN TREATMENT at the same time. He bought me an expensive dinner. I said I want to do it. I want to be there. I want to play. And this time, I did it and I've loved this entire season. I think you guys will see very shortly we've done something extraordinary here. |
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KURT SUTTER: As Paris said, I had been trying to get him on board as a directing producer as early as after his episode in Season 1. And it's a role that's difficult to fill, and most other 20th and FOX shows have that position filled. And I just love all my other directors, but putting somebody in that position and giving them the authority and the trust and the creative freedom to help run the show. And I knew it had to be somebody of Paris' caliber, who knew the show. And especially after Season 2 and "Balm," the episode that he directed. And so I tried to get him for Season 3. And I bought him an expensive dinner, and it didn't work. But I knew Paris had loyalties to IN TREATMENT. It was a show he helped create, and it just worked out this season. You know, we continued to whittle away at him, and we broke his spirit. |
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QUESTION: Mr. Barclay. David Milch, Kurt Sutter, compare, contrast. PARIS BARCLAY: Yeah. Well, both geniuses. Both really know what every character thinks and feels in a way that I find is highly unusual in television. Usually the writer is hoping that the actor will fill it all in. These guys know, when they're sitting there to write, the life of what that character is. It's very, very unusual. David likes to actually direct the actors more than Kurt does, if you can imagine such a thing. And Kurt is much more timely than David is. But both of them, I would say, with Aaron Sorkin, those are the three great television living writers now -- Kurt, Aaron, David Milch.
KURT SUTTER: That's why I hired him. |
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QUESTION: So it's been 14 months that these guys have been in jail. What has changed for them? What was the experience like, and then how has Charming changed in their absence? RON PERLMAN: Well, Charming has changed rather dramatically. Dayton Callie, who plays Sheriff Unser, has been retired. We have a new sheriff who we haven't met yet. We come to meet very early on and come to dislike very quickly thereafter. We have a new mayor, Jacob Hale, who is determined to change the sort of spiritual socioeconomic makeup of the town. So we come out to a transformed environment to a place where they've tried to scapegoat the club and say the Sons of Anarchy are responsible for all the ills that you've ever experienced in Charming. And we've got our work cut out for us because the town has always been something that was partially in our own image of what it was we found tolerable about a decent mom and pop, rural American place, so. |
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QUESTION: What was the experience in prison like for the characters? Have they changed in that process? RON PERLMAN: I'm bisexual now.
KIM COATES: Theo's had a sex change.
THEO ROSSI: I have. How has prison changed us? Fourteen months is a long time. I think that for my character -- this was his first long prison stretch -- and I think it's really made him delve much deeper into the club and really just get involved with these guys because now it's real. It's realer than it's ever been for Juice. And his prison stretch only established that more for him. |
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QUESTION: Maggie Siff, fourteen months is a long time, and the burden falls on the women of SAMCRO to run the business, take care of the kids, wait, and keep things together. Can give us some insight into Tara's rethinking. MAGGIE SIFF: Well, I think that 14 months is a strange time for the women. Because in one sense, it's very peaceful. There's a reprieve from all of the general shenanigans that happen in Charming. My character's had a child, and so there's a real sense of waiting. And also, Tara sitting with a whole bunch of information from those letters that she read at the end of last season. |
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MAGGIE SIFF (cont): So my feeling is that those 14 months have been a gestation period in more ways than one, obviously. There's having the child, caring for the child, and then beginning to try to think about what the family could be in a longer term way. And I think my character's investment in the safety of my family is taken to a whole ‘nother level, and I'm sitting on all of this information. So there's a lot of things going on in my mind in terms of trying to plan for the future, and I need to wait for Jax to come home and see where we are in order to do that. But it's kind of a peaceful time, and I think there's a lot of planning and anxiety underneath that in anticipation. |
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QUESTION: The Irish adventure last year was so different. What did that year feel like to you? And by comparison, how does it feel to you this year when you're presumably able to spend more time all in the familiar location and back to more of the regular stories? KATEY SAGAL: Well, last year I thought it was bold and brave to kind of take us out of where we were in the story that Kurt wanted to tell. I think as actors we didn't get to see each other quite as much. We were sort of on different [schedules and] definitely different countries, and it kind of played out that way. So sometimes felt a little odd, but it kind of worked with the story, because of what was going on with them. You felt kind of odd. |
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KATEY SAGAL (cont): There we were in this other country and trying to desperately get my grandson back. And so that felt splintered as, I think, was appropriate. And this season feels different, but splintered in another way because there's a lot of internal struggle that goes on this season. So I think as an actor, I really like seeing some of the people I wasn't able to see that much last year, so that's kind of fun. I've had scenes this season with Boone, and I've had some stuff coming up with Tig, which is really, really great. So different. That's what I'll say.
MARK BOONE JUNIOR: This year it seemed there's a lot more about what our personal relationships are about. And then the troubles that are brought on the club this year, it seems like we bring them on ourselves somehow as opposed to exterior things. We kind of invite them into our lives, and that kind of that's really what it's about been about for me. |
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QUESTION: Has anyone from the biker community ever reached out to you? Is there a biker version of Comic Con where they squeal when you show up? KATEY SAGAL: Lots.
DAYTON CALLIE: A million of them. |
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KURT SUTTER: These guys can probably speak to that. They've actually been going to some biker shows because SONS has a presence at some of these rallies and stuff. My experience is that the feedback has been generally very positive. I have friends that are in the life and I really keep the lines of communication open, you know. So, look, I know it's a drama and we take a lot of liberties with how these guys live their lives, but my experience is that they embrace that. And I've mentioned this before, they consider it their soap opera, you know. And I do keep the lines of communication so that it remains homage and not exploitation because I never want to sort of cross that line where they feel like you were sort of exploiting their lives. And so that's really been the experience and it's really been very positive to the point where I'm usually getting head shots and stuff like that when I enter into these events and stuff. |
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QUESTION: Do you have any sort of freaky, stalker stories or any sort of moments where really scary people have walked up to you out of the public and said, "Hey, I really like your show" or anything like that? TOMMY FLANAGAN: The stalker story. Actually, Dayton Callie doesn't work on the show. He just follows us around.
THEO ROSSI: Yeah.
TOMMY FLANAGAN: He's our frickin’ stalker. |
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KATEY SAGAL: I actually got asked for my autograph. I went to get my daughter her driver's license. I was at the DMV and the guy asked me to sign his parole card, the back of his parole officer’s card. He said he'd watched us in prison and he was really excited to meet me. So that was one. And also that story where a guy had Charlie and I both write our names on him, and he walked away and came back 15 minutes later and had them tattoo these huge names on his body. It was kind of interesting. |
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QUESTION: This year, just based on the premiere, obviously there's some issues between Jax and the rest of the club, but you also introduce Ray McKinnon and Rockmond Dunbar's character. How do you decide how much is going to be about the club fighting within itself and how much is going to be sort of people coming at them from inside? KURT SUTTER: I think the idea always is to use those external pressures to incubate what's going on inside the club. So when you have these dynamics set up, as we set up this season with the Russians in the premiere and then ultimately with the Mexicans, there's all these internal conflicts going on. |
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KURT SUTTER (cont): And then, when you sort of add the external pressure of a new sheriff, it's always about using those external things just to sort of torque up and create more tension on the things that are going in here, so that our “A” stories, which quite often deal with them going into taking care of business, are caused by these external things. But what you then have is all the shit that's going on between the members and the conflicts of the club -- how does that play out in the day-to-day when they have to go and take care of business. That ultimately is what the show is. If there was a narrative device that you could land on it, that's really what we try to do, so that the expository things and the narrative beats are fun and exciting and testosterone-driven. But underneath it, you have all the characters stuff and all the emotionality that's going on because of these internal beefs. |
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QUESTION: Kurt, not to open this can of worms again, but I heard you were somewhat perturbed by the lack of Emmy attention last month that the show got. I wondered what your theory is as to why the show can't get arrested by the TV Academy, so to speak? KURT SUTTER: Clearly, we know why we won't get an Emmy nod now. But I'll just say my tweets are more about my bad relationship with my father than they were about the actual Emmy nominations. [Laughter.] If any of you want to lay me down on a couch and talk about that afterwards, I will gladly open up that can of worms, and perhaps pay you. But it's a long answer that I really don't know where it's going to lead, to be honest with you. We have a tremendous cast up here, so I'd rather point the questions at them rather than my neuroses. |
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QUESTION: What was it like to work with David Hasselhoff? TOMMY FLANAGAN: [Muttering as if his mic is cutting out.] Great. Thank you. [Laughter.]
MARK BOONE JUNIOR: He was fun. [Laughter.]
KIM COATES: What we're finding with this show is that everybody wants to be on it. All the actors. Whatever you might think of as great want to be on this show. So that's really in Kurt's hands. |
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RON PERLMAN: So we started with David Hasselhoff. [Laughter.]
KIM COATES: He was hysterical, really.
TOMMY FLANAGAN: Yeah.
KIM COATES: The porn stuff that we did. He's supposedly well endowed so I think he played that to the hilt. [Laughter.] And it was funny. That's all I got to say about it.
KATEY SAGAL: I actually went to school with David Hasselhoff, so I was happy to see him. |
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QUESTION: Any other guest stars that you care to mention? KATEY SAGAL: Well, we always have wonderful guest stars. I love Ray McKinnon. We have Ray McKinnon. He's not a guest star. He's got a recurring part. It's a really interesting role this season. Rockmond Dunbar is great.
MARK BOONE JUNIOR: I mean, we are a pretty tight group, and you come in against, you know, a big bunch of men and it's... |
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KATEY SAGAL: Intimidating.
MARK BOONE JUNIOR: It can be, but I think everybody comes ready to...
TOMMY FLANAGAN: Relax and feel...
MARK BOONE JUNIOR: We try to...
RON PERLMAN: We also have the great Danny Trejo all season long doing a rather powerful arc on the show, so there's some major gravitas that's been added to what had already been. |
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QUESTION: Katey, what have you seen as the result of the Golden Globe win? Have you found that more people are aware of the show, more people are telling you that they appreciate and like the show than maybe they did before? KATEY SAGAL: It's been a very nice compliment to get the Golden Globe. I think that more awareness from the show's happened from Netflix more than winning the Golden Globe. I don't know yet. We'll see what kind of audience response we get to Season 4. I would like to think that any kind of notoriety we get will bring some more eyeballs. I just know for me personally it was really wonderful, so we'll see if it brings more viewers. I don't know. |
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RELIVE THE FIRST THREE SEASONS
Season 1 Recap: Jax Teller's journey begins with the discovery of a life-altering document written by his dead father, SAMCRO founder John Teller. Gemma, Jax's mother and club matriarch, along with her husband Clay Morrow, current SAMCRO president, try to suppress John Teller's truths in order to keep Jax in line with the club. Tara Knowles, Jax’s high school sweetheart, returns to Charming, further challenging Jax's commitment to the club. |
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Season 2 Recap: SAMCRO faces new criminal and personal threats when the League of American Nationalists, a racist group, tries to end the club's gun business. LOAN and renewed ATF aggression compromises SAMCRO's relationship with the Irish. Gemma is framed for murdering a RIRA member and Jax's infant son Abel is kidnapped by the dead member's vengeful father. |
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Season 3 Recap: SAMCRO feels powerless over Abel's kidnapping. Jax's grief sends him into deeper turmoil over his future with the club. The search for Abel sends SOA to Belfast where Jax faces not only the Real Irish Republican Army but an untold personal history regarding his family. |
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Three Seasons of Sex Appeal: Watch all the sex appeal from the last three seasons of SOA. |
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Three Seasons of Action: Watch all the action from the last three seasons of SOA. |
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Three Seasons of Hits: How many people have you hit? Watch the greatest hits from the last three seasons. of SOA |
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SNEAK PEEK OF SEASON FOUR
Season 4 Sneak Peek: Watch an exclusive scene from the all new season of Sons of Anarchy. |
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GO BEHIND THE SCENES
SFX: Go behind the scenes of SOA to see how the show creates its gnarly special effects. |
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Prop Master: Go behind the scenes of SOA and watch the prop master in action. |
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Production Design: Go behind the scenes of SOA and get an inside look into the show’s set and production design. |
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Bike Mechanic: Check out the bikes from SOA. |
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Makeup: The bruises of SOA tell a story. |
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Wardrobe: Go behind the scenes of the biker style of SOA. |
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Charlie's New Haircut: Go behind the scenes and find out why Jax cut his hair for season 4. |
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